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4 cyls = 8 Cyls for 250 laps neon Fast as a V8

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Posted 20 May 2013 - 10:34 AM

Well our team had a great 250 lap enduro race saturday at Flat Rock Speedway!

We had 3 cars racing.

The #11, 1975 Monte Carlo, 350 V8, 4 barrel carb, cast iron manifolds, dual exhaust Driven by Kyle Mendepennigen.

the #1, 1984 Cutlass 350 V8, 4 barrel carb, cast iron manifolds, dual exhaust Driven by brother Rayce Mendepennigen.

The #4 1995, FWD 4 cylinder Dodge Neon, 2.0 L SOHC, auto trans driver by the father Jeff Mendepennigen.

For the about the first 100 laps, the Dodge Neon was ahead and as fast as the #11 V8 car!

the V8 cars use Hoosier sportsman tires, the Neon was on 195 65 14 street tires ( falkens).

After 250 laps of green flag racing,,,the 11 car finished 2and and the Neon finished 9th!

IMHO the neon could have finished 3rd or 4th, but it started running hot after 100 laps and jeff had to ease up to keep the neon cool.

The NEON was actually faster in the turns and the straights than many of the V8 cars.

Befor the race i wrote on the back,,, " I coulda HAD a V8!""

also, the NOEN is much cheaper to build and race than the v8 cars.

Our Neon is a B main car at Spartan.

So YES, FWD Neons and Pure stock type V8 stock cars Can run together,,,

This is now flat rocks version of the TV show " are you faster than a Redneck?" that pits tuner cars against american muscle cars.
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Posted 20 May 2013 - 10:43 AM

The Neons tires were 5 race old Falkens, and after the 250 race the rears are not worn at all, the RF is done and the LF is OK.

I am guesing we used about 4 to 6 gallons of BP premium pump gas. I will measure it and let you know for sure.

the V8s used 13 to 15 gallons of gas., and they were on racing tires.

The Neon has a $200 junk yard engine, the V8s are rebuilt.
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Posted 20 May 2013 - 01:15 PM

here is the story on the arca web site.

http://www.arcaracin...contentid=15440
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Posted 20 May 2013 - 06:16 PM

Are the 4 cylinders able to use racing tires? Would they have made a difference or do the street tires handle the heat better?
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Posted 21 May 2013 - 07:18 AM

View Postmrvids, on 21 May 2013 - 10:16 AM, said:

Are the 4 cylinders able to use racing tires? Would they have made a difference or do the street tires handle the heat better?


this was the first time ARCA allowed FWD 4 cylinder carsto run the V8 rwd enduro,,so after Saturday they have a few things to think about.

Last Saturday the rules were that the 4 cylinder cars had to run the weekly fwd 4 cyliner rules.

the v8 cars had no weight rule, we could have run the Neon lighter.

The V8 cars had hoosier Sportsmans, the FWD 4 cyinder car had to run a DOT tire.

Putting a Hoosier sportsman on a neon could be tuff to do,,they are taller and they could rub the spring seat on the struts,,,with 195 14 tires they just barly clear now.

I would like to be able to have a 2,300 lb weight rule for fwd 4 cyinders when running with the V8 enduro cars.

Our Neon weighs 1,850 with no driver and no gas.

The real great good thing that was shown last saturday was that a solution to the problem of dwindleing car counts in the V8 enduro due to the car to race is a rare hard to get 1973 to 77 Monte Carlo.
Flat rock can keep it a V8 enduro, and increase car counts by allowing Neons,,,and those who want to try 250 lap enduro racing can build a race ready NEON for much cheaper than a V8 car, and it will be fast.
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Posted 22 May 2013 - 02:42 PM

video from someelse car,,

we have the
yellow and Orange #1 1984 cutlass,

the black #11 1975 monte carlo,

and the black #4 neon.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=R0GunQmqufw
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